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Post by deepfrey on Jul 15, 2011 23:33:09 GMT -5
I was wondering if a warshaper was able to create wings in which it would enable said warshaper to fly? Searched forums sourcebooks and such but I couldnt seem to find anything that says a Warshaper can or cannot do this.
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Post by darkalloy on Jul 16, 2011 8:15:08 GMT -5
Cannot as they can only create attack forms.... I.E you could make wings but only for the attack that come with.
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Post by Andre on Jul 16, 2011 17:16:40 GMT -5
Yep I think that's what the WOTC book sez sorry  (page 90 Complete Warrior ) .. any sort of feat that would allow one to grow wings and fly though from any of the WOTC books that anyone knows of ? If Draug has the warshaper prestige class going on I'd say from the RP point of view he can |
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Post by deepfrey on Jul 16, 2011 22:17:58 GMT -5
Alright so essentially you will let me grow wings to the extent of "Hey guys look what I can do!"  |
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Post by deepfrey on Jul 16, 2011 22:18:45 GMT -5
If i had wild shape I could grow eagle wings |
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Post by deepfrey on Jul 16, 2011 22:20:57 GMT -5
Is there a way that someone could magically graft some wings on me?
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Post by darkalloy on Jul 16, 2011 23:06:09 GMT -5
Actually if you don't mind taking the aberrant feats from lords of madness you can get wings that allow you to fly.
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Post by deepfrey on Jul 16, 2011 23:47:31 GMT -5
yeah i was looking for some feats theres the Vestigial Wings feat stacked with functional wings feat but that requires demonic ancestry
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Post by darkalloy on Jul 17, 2011 0:43:33 GMT -5
Lords of Madness, take Starspawn, you get like fly of 30 and cold resist 5
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Post by deepfrey on Jul 17, 2011 2:17:59 GMT -5
I thought I required aberration ancestry for those feats
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Post by deepfrey on Jul 17, 2011 2:40:33 GMT -5
nevermind that works i just need to get aberrant blood feat first
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Post by Andre on Jul 17, 2011 18:10:25 GMT -5
Hmm.. on the other hand somehow I can't see Draug having mindflayer, beholder, et cet ancestry it just doesn't make sense .. I'm not sure about letting PC's take feats that involve them having aboleth ancestry anymore it seems a bit too " wierd" now .. normally I'd just borrow the feat as a rules mechanic and rule that Draug can grow wings as an extension of his warshaper ability but the aberant ancestry and one other aberant feat requirement for starspawn makes it tough.. hmmm.. looks like I'll have to house rule this one.. I'm going to say a 3rd level or higher warshaper can take grow wings as a feat ... you can fly at 30 feet with "average" maneuverability, see "flight " at www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040629aPurchasing this feat a 2nd time increases your fly speed to 60 feet and your maneuverability to "good" , letting you hover in place as well .. sound good ? |
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Post by darkalloy on Jul 17, 2011 21:37:51 GMT -5
You have to remember though Andre allowing for the good maneuverability allows the PC to get perfect maneuverability, generally, those with wings have poor maneuverability and can get to average as perfect makes the PC like a humming bird.
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Post by deepfrey on Jul 18, 2011 0:15:14 GMT -5
I think it best if maneuverability starts at clumsy seeing as humanoids tend not to fly usually that way I have to work towards better maneuverability |
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Post by Andre on Jul 18, 2011 9:14:36 GMT -5
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(page 90 Complete Warrior ) .. any sort of feat that would allow one to grow wings and fly though from any of the WOTC books that anyone knows of ? If Draug has the warshaper prestige class going on I'd say from the RP point of view he can 
... we'll amend the purchasing the feat a second time to getting you to "average" maneuverability .. I'll go ahead and put this in the house rules then 